Does special walnut minwax over red oak select leave a medium brown overall look without seeing so much graining? Is the peeling happening after a recoat or after the floors were stained? I had a hard time deciding on a colour, we wanted to go with Gris beige from Monocoat. I want the modern look but my house is small. Again, thank you mucho mucho!!! Please keep in mind that the colors and textures shown on this page will vary with the natural differences found in each wood type. I’m just curious if you have heard of Glitza products (for stain and sealer/finish). I would do a test patch of Golden Oak like you suggested and also one of Natural. None are what we have in mind. It is very warm and elegant. Either way it wouldn’t fix the issue. If not, how many coats of stain did you apply to achieve such a dark finish? It is really dark!! If the finish doesn’t adhere properly, I’m sorry to say, but your husband may be sanding all over again :(. The kitchen is cheap natural colored pergo, which looks fine against the Red Chestnut. I think I may be too late with this reply sorry. Looks pretty good, except in a few spots I have what appears to be bleed back in the joints between boards. I like the stain color of the picture you have with the fire place. Minwax Stain For Red Oak Floors This week we had to choose the floor stain which I thought would be my favorite since I already had an idea of what I liked. Minwax Early American From the results on the pieces of wood, Early American is … Downstairs, we’re thinking of putting a light color, and a Red Chestnut single border around the living/family room which would tie in the color on the stairs. To ensure that any stain penetrates and fills oak’s deep pores, apply a liberal amount of stain to the wood, then work it into the pores using a cloth in a swirling motion. AND, they can be mixed and/or layered for pretty much unlimited color choice. thanks. You definitely need to sand more wood off the floors in these cases though. What color do you suggest we stain our red oak floors to get the same affect or close to same color? On the other hand, maybe you have a more common type of wood like red or white oak. The sheen of the finish won’t effect the color. Just like when you stress or stretch plastic. It is only 130 VOC and has a slight smell for a day. Since your floors are so old and you may not be able to sand them again, I would also suggest looking at a hardwax oil like Rubio Monocoat. Many times however, staining will allow the pet stains to blend right in and become unnoticable if you go dark enough like you’re thinking. I’m sure they would have no problem water popping the floor for you either (unless they are extremely under-qualified, but I’m sure they’re not or you wouldn’t have hired them.). It was hot while they were sanding and I didn’t smell anything. Here is the Minwax stain basics on red oak: These are all one coat of the labeled color. What color should i stain my floors? This would be done when the floor was completed. Hi Tadas, were redoing our floors and walls we want to do the the walls edge come gray (light gray) and the floor we want to do darker but not very dark like ebony or jacobean a b;t lighter and not red or orange… what do u recommend that will compliment the walls and vica versa?thanks! The available colors our floor guy says are out there are simply not what we had a in mind. The color palette in the blog post is just a small sampling of our colors, we have many more and all of them can be mixed and blended to get any custom shade you want. I used it mixed with Golden oak to match the stain on my new white oak treads to the mellowed natural red oak that was polyed with oil based poly which mellowed very golden. As far as your other question, Provincial will not be darker than English Chestnut normally, but if you water pop the floors (see this post here) then you’ll be able to get it darker. Not 100% sure as there are a lot of colors. the current stain is ebony, almost black (my flooring guy said this is not even a stain and the floor has been painted black) on red oak had wood. thanks again, Lorena. Kepeing them both the same would look too country themed to me. I’m having a hard time finding it. What is your feeling on a custom stain? ps… I’m sorry I misspelled you name above. These finishes accentuate the character of the wood, so if you have a lot of variation then it will be hard to mask that with a light color unfortunately. Thanks for coming back and giving us an update with your experience, we appreciate that a lot. Then he put 2 more coats and it’s dark now. Any suggestions? I also want to go all Ebony, the current 50:50 mix looks like Walnut brown to me personally. Was thinking of going with 3 parts early american and 1 part english chestnut for a richer tone and depth. I’m concerned with all of the different wood and age of wood that we’re going to have a hodge podge of colors so am hoping the floors will tie it all together. For that reason, oak is attractive with nearly any color of stain. Now I want to use Ebony or True Black stain on top of the Coffee Brown. That would look great with light gray walls if you want something different and trendy. I should mention it is white oak quartersawn and rift. Could you give me your assesment? Do you have any experience with and recommendations of a Rubio color that might accomplish this, or are we asking for the impossible? If so, is there a way neutralizing or bleaching the remnants of the original stain? I’m looking at getting my floors stained in the near future. Whatever your taste is, dark, lighter floors, red hues, grey or brown and all the shades in between, you will have no trouble finding a color that fits in perfect with your home. You can see it here on this floor but that’s because it’s the natural color of the wood: http://www.houzz.com/photos/87707/Oakley-Home-Builders-traditional-kitchen-chicago, Thankfully you can buy small tins of stain cheap. We have natural white oak floors currently. Make sure you get hold of a large sample and keep it up against the cabinets for a few days so you get a good idea of whether you like the look or not. One of the biggest questions we get here at Tadas Wood Flooring Inc. when it comes to staining floors is: Should I get my floors stained and if so, what color should I go with? Make sure your floor guy puts down both colors in a test patch for you though so you can be 100% sure about which one you like better. Originally, they were a natural light color, and I went with a Golden Brown color. any of them would do for me. Sorry for all the questions, but I’m really desperate here! They are stained with Minwax Provincial – satin polyurethane finish. Raw, Rough Sawn Douglas Fir More Wood Species Have a … Sorry you had a bad experience with the first guy you hired. In the end it will all come down to your own tastes and preferences. Start with 50/50 and go from there. Just to be clear – when we talk about “staining” we are talking about a separate step done to color your wood floors. I’m not a fan of the golden oak. Solid Beams: Which Is Best For Your Project. We are thinking about duraseal cherry stain but may be too light. What stain did you use? He didn’t sand enough. I was wrong!! Street Shoe is a reputable brand of finish you you can rest assured knowing your floors will be fine. You should be able to find images of houses with all sorts of wood flooring colors, stains and shades within them. My contractor is putting in new red oak floor in my bedroom and refinishing the existing red oak floors in the living room/kitchen (its a small 650 sq ft apt). I would not be able to guess what it is from behind my computer though unfortunately. Personally, I would suggest sanding them back, water popping and staining again. Thank you so much for all of your expertise you share on this blog. He is now recommending that we change route and go with a medium brown colour to hide this problem. Thanks! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. My home has original oak floors from 1885 that are very thin at this point. The dark flooring that has really caught my eye happened to be Brazilian cherry flooring with walnut stain to tone down the red. They were distressed and then stained before being coated. Hope that helps. It does not tend to turn blotchy, but like all woods it will stain more evenly after an application of a pre-stain wood conditioner. Jacobean is a bit more coffee brown color than the Walnut. Overall looks like a hot mess, with white lines, gaps, parts are glossy others matte, shoe prints from the topcoat, buffer marks. Unfinished Planed Douglas Fir. Historic Reconstructions: Continuing the Timber Frame Tradition, Timber Framing vs. Post and Beam Construction. For gaps, make sure they aren’t seasonal. It looks very nice. He put one coat on and it wasn’t dark enough so he added another ( he may have tweaked the formula a bit not sure) and the color was perfect; however after a few hours – of course after he left, lines started forming in between the cracks of the wood, (lihter in color). As far as brand of stain, we use a few different ones depending on what look we are trying to achieve. If they are there in the winter and you fill them, the floor won’t have any room for expansion when the humidity rises in the summer. Hi I have an entire house of 6inch hickory and trying to decide on stain color for floor and stairs / handrail – about 3500 sq/ft of wood so I need to get the color right… what color would be more timeless in your opinion? So the stain color is a very big commitment. You say you used 50 percent rosewood stain. I would try half and half first and if that’s too red for you try 3/4 walnut and 1/4 chestnut. We do this all the time. But the main issue I am having, and maybe it isn’t even a issue…..is the doors and trim. It looks fine. Here’s a blog post I wrote on water popping to help you out on this subject: As far as choosing the stain color, we usually do that before the job has begun. The oak is light in color and unfinished: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/17032866066/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/17057383652/, https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/17057383682/. Hope you can get it sorted out to your satisfaction. in REFINISHING Pine Wide Planks with Early American Stain. I like more of a brown but not too red or orange… thank you. Thanks for the great information. I’ll answer anyways :). Any suggestion on the stain color for the floors? Some of the wood planks are not even where the ends meet. Great article, very informative! The last house had #1 red oak and we stained in with Jacobean and loved the color. Once the stain and finish goes on there’s no turning back. Without seeing the floors in person, my suspicion is that he hasn’t sanded them aggressively enough. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help, its a bit hard to show and describe colors through a computer compared to in person with large samples :). I also don’t want to see so much red or gold like you see in Early American. If the joints were tight to begin with, could aggressive sanding get rid of the remaining stain or is it something that you just have to live with? Several, even the Pure- seem to tint the walnut a bit reddish- which we don’t want. Hi, we have #2 red oak floors, that we will be refinishing. I won’t be starting for a little while unfortunately. Still running the dehumidifier (December 2019 in WI). My curtains are burgundy (maroon color). Ideal for unfinished wood furniture, cabinets, Hi Tadas! 4. weathered oak + early American allowed to sit for a couple of minutes before wiping off. i.e. Lighter floors can be better for small dark rooms as they will brighten them up, making them look bigger because they reflect light. I have just had my cypress pine floors sanded and stained walnut by a professional company and there are marks along the edge of the boards where the stain has not fixed, leaving very light marks. The Pure made it a bit reddish and did nothing for the sapwood. As far as humidity level, 43% is great. The picture up top is deceiving… it’s color in the photo looks different because of the suns reflection off the wood outside. I know it’s not the easiest way, but it will definitely get you the darker color you want. Fir looks great with either an oil-based finish or natural stain and waterbased. I had decided on Rubio as a finish but we cannot seem to find a color that’s “right” for the handscraped walnut floors we are getting. I mixed %50 ebony with 50% white. Something like this: http://www.houzz.com/photos/87686/Oakley-Home-Builders-traditional-kitchen-chicago, Any advice you could give would be great! Yes you can mix at any ratio you like. Thanks. Thinking of Staining Your Hardwood Floors a Dark Color? That would be my first assumption. Bona DriFast Quick Dry Stain Early American 1 qt Stains Bona DriFast Quick Dry Stain (early american) is an oil-modified stain that dries and is recoatable in two hours. If using regular stain do not apply the finish the next day, let it dry out sufficiently first. But I don’t have a clue about finishing or staining. Thanks. You can read about that process here: https://napervillehardwood.com/blog/what-is-water-popping/ Apply stain one line at the time and start wiping after 5-7 minutes if using quick dry stain and 10-12 min if using regular dry stain. And does the dark floor show dust alot ?? There are sealers too that can be used under water based coatings that offer similar looks. Many people think ‘staining’ means applying the top coats of oil or polyurethane. It has natural oak flooring with that typical yellowish hue. My floor guy didnt do any samples for me. They’ve already got a coat of stain on. Hickory Floor with Early American Stain. After it dried it looked horrible. The floors appear painted black ! It’s never fun when things go wrong :(. My husband doesn’t want red and my kitchen cabinets are also white oak. Is this right? Thank you. You can also use Neutral to lighten the shade if needed. We only ever apply one coat of stain. Excuses, excuses :). If you are lucky enough to have an exotic, rare or special wood floor such as mahogany, cherry, rosewood, walnut, aged pine and even maple then we strongly recommend they don’t be stained. At that point the entire house will be wood flooring. To fix it you’ll need to allow sufficient time for the stain in the gaps to dry and then start over. I just wrote another blog post about it here: https://napervillehardwood.com/blog/what-is-water-popping/. As you found out first hand, the guys out there that are cheap are usually cheap for a reason. The wood most likely will be a different type and it will not take the stain the same as your floor. I just got guy installed Red Oak hardwood floor, can you advice what color should I go with should I stain or leave it natural. Those plain sawn red oak floors were stained with 50% Rosewood/Natural and then finished with 3 coats of oil based finish to give it a nice deep, rich look. Thanks for the offer of help as well. 2) The other cause can be from using 2 component finishes in multiple coats over a floor vs using a sealer and the 2 component finish for top coats. Do you like the light, clean open look of a lighter colored modern grey shade…, Or do you fancy the deep, elegant and bold look of dark black floors…, Maybe your eye is drawn to the brown shades in between these two palates…. To be honest, it will most likely not be dark enough still if you try this. Don’t want to go too light as it doesn’t match our look & afraid of choosing a color that is too orange. Let us know how it goes. 52 Any experience or advise with this? In order to match the various colourings in the grains, I thought of investing in several different colours of putty. Thank you for your help. Thanks. Those floors from the 1950’s and up to the 2000’s turned that way because oil-based polyurethane was used. You can see an example of a stained hardwood floor with white cabinets we did for the Waterson family in Glen Ellyn, Illinois about halfway down the page here: In the end though it’s up to you and personal choice :). I read this is durable but not recommended for dark stained floors. The issue will be with the fir and cypress, the oak takes a stain well but the other two are more challenging to get even coverage. Sounds like you have a wonderful house. Oak flooring. Congratulations on the new home. P.S. Thinking of adding some ebony? But in your picture it doesn’t. Especially on the two different types of oak you’re thinking of choosing between. Thx! The trim matches the rest of the trim in the house and a black rail is a very clean classic look. As my advice is always… test a few mixes on a scrap piece first. Btw, really wishing I lived in Chicago, so you could do my floors! We later tested the fir stains to see what matched best with the red oak stain we liked. I am going to have red oak floors put in. If we can be of any further assistance please let us know. I love the fireplace room floor above. Will most people who want a plank floor want it naturally colored? I wanted a dark brown – we did a mixture of Provential and dark walnut. Once you had decided on a color you were happy with we would then start the job. Hi Tadas, I never knew picking a floor color would be so difficult. I can’t recall what percentage of each to use in the mixture or whether it was dark walnut or just walnut. I have read that duraseal spice brown or antique brown might get the desired result. Good luck Teresa, let us know how it turns out. 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